Thursday, August 18, 2005

Raise the screen, give it a lamenting pat, and put Labor to sleep.

Was watching Question Time last night. I really don't see the point in the whole thing.

Theres Lib-to-Lib pretend questions, by some nobody backbencher to the front bench, who thanks them for their question, and complements them on various matters, their future, intelligence, hairstyle, whatever, all the while knowing full well they aren't allowed to have an opinion, only allowed to warm the seats and keep the background looking busy whilst the real team makes it show. "How much do we rock? And how can we rock more?" seems to be the standard question. Always reiterating a statement already made. Waste of dollars, waste of air time.

Then theres ALP-Lib (or visa-versa). These represent the biggest load of bollocks in Australian politics. The question is never answered. (Although I was stunned when John Howard answered a question a while back with the simple word "no" and sat down. I cheered.) The supplementary question is mostly a piddle on a stick as well, never answered.

"I have a question about Telstra privatisation"
"Nah, you'se guys privatised stuff too, Commonwealth Bank, etc"

"I have a question about monetary matters"
"You'se guys heaps sucked with money, you always lost it all and stuff"

Then theres the Greens/Dems-Lib (although the Democrats have managed to botch up enough to be a write-off), this is interesting. There is no simple "but you did this" rebuttal in most cases. The question has to be answer, or avoided. Of course it is mostly avoided.

But really, you only need to look at interviews on shows such as Lateline, or on the radio. They simply do not answer questions, at all. ALP is probably a tad better with the media, but not by much.

The ALP sucks dogs balls. The Liberal Party is not hindered by them, quite the contrary. If they're similar, which they are, there is little reason to chose one or the other. You can only be an apologist for so long, and I personally had given far too much credence to the ALP for far too long. If you defend the ALP and fail to win arguments, then maybe there is a problem with your position. And I'm not refering to Question Time as an argument, it is nothing of the sort, I mean a political discussion with peers.

Labors agreement to the FTA was my final straw, others have theirs. I fuckin' got petition signatures and everything, AND WAS A MEMBER AT THE TIME. People of sound mind, and by that I mostly mean lefties/middies/ignorants (but definately not actual right-wingers), need to wake up quite frankly. They are in the ranks of the Libs, ALP, Dems, probably even the Nats, and it is high time they stopped pretending. If you are more an apologist than supporter, you do not support the party that you claim to.

Rant rant rant, where was I?

Oh yeah, ALP is crap. The Greens are the ALP now, the Dems also have lost any credibility (to me). The Greens are what the ALP used to be in its finer moments, and what it should be right now. Their position on IR is what the ALP should be.

Let's look in the newspaper.

Shell accused of hiding benzene emissions from Geelong refinery - Greens would have made rampant corporate pollution economically unviable had they been in power.

Telstra sale, blah blah, Greens would never have allowed this stupidity. It is a disgrace.

Incorrect detention of citizens as immigrants - no such draconian knee-jerk detention would exist under Greens.

Oh I LOVE this one - Lib Malcom Turnbull wants a ban on corporations/unions/organisations funding political parties, or at least that there be a limit, it might corrupt the system. Can't believe The Age didn't make this comment at all really - GOOD POINT, here's a campaign that exists already to stop this - democracy4sale, hold the phone, it's a Greens initiative! And they refuse donations from big business ALREADY, whilst YOUR PARTY Mr Turnbull slurps up donations from whomever is willing to throw it at them like a cheap stripper. The ALP throws some of the money back, but only token amounts, and only when it gets it's knuckles rapped.

... and that's how we play "Man, we'd be so fuckin' set if we didn't have clowns running the shop."

You can play politics - you can do this and say that because that seems to be what the reporters want to hear, pick words carefully, do some branch stacking, ignore a reports findings because it's not what you wanted to hear, claim you haven't read that report and can't comment, spend time arguing amongst yourselfs, have party splits, demand unity and conformance, deny individual Senators the right to cross the floor, control others with threats, attacks, or con them with money for their particular area of concern, but you won't get my vote.

Or you could just respect democracy, do what you feel is the best thing to do, the right thing to do, and listen to your constituents votes and concerns. None of the other parties seem to maintain a grasp on this, and if they do, it is soon wringed out of them.

ALP=FTA
DEM=GST
ALP+DEM = FF
I want the parties split, because I think those concerned quite frankly want it to as well. No more in-fighting, just switch. Look at the policies and history, and judge for yourself.

Besides which, I don't imagine the right-wing parties will be around for much longer. It's easy to assume, with election results, that there is a shift to the right, there is nothing of the sort. Look around you. See where issues about the environment rank amongst Australians concerns, we have recycling bins, hard garbage, organic foods have never been more popular (except for several decades ago when there were no other options), shit even one of the big election stunts was about fucking old growth forests for fucks sake! (*cough* Go Bob *cough*)

Why do they win elections so well? They are desperate, a minority actually wants what they are planning to do, or believes in their ideology. Thus, they resort to dirty filthy disgusting tactics. They stem down into threats basically, we will protect you from these evil doers who throw children overboard, etc (if you don't vote for us, you will be in danger from these crazy people), if you don't vote for us you will suffer from higher interests rates, go bankrupt, become working poor. Someone in the party think-tank must have thought through "what is the biggest and most easily expoited vulnerability of Australians?" and been really excited when he got the idea and it was fleshed out. The same goes for the other rascist one.

IIRC 70% of Australians don't want the Telstra sale, 60% don't want the IR changes, 40% STRONGLY, 20% for. But when they voted, this is what they were asking for. That makes them idiotic, ill-informed, and about to learn the hard way why they should have be keeping up with politics.

Australians are mis-represented.

I feel so much better now. Ahh.. oh crap theres talk of a union related Labor split-type thing on Lateline. Why DOES EVERYONE STEAL MY IDEAS!?

5 Comments:

At 9:54 am, August 19, 2005, Blogger Aleks - Anarcho-Syndicalist said...

I agree with all your comments but two;

1. The Dems now being a write-off. On economic policy they have always been a write-off. Thwe Workplace Relations Act in 1996 is a perfect example of this.

2. Your optimism that right-wing parties won;t be around for much longer. The sad thing is most people don't think when it comes to voting (actually most people don't think full stop); they believe the crap that is put to them by the media, and for obviuos reasons the media will always push a right-wing agenda becuase they are owned and run by right-wing economic rationalis businessmen. It's sad, but it's true.

 
At 7:18 pm, August 19, 2005, Blogger Larry Bonewend said...

1. Yeah I know, but the Dems are so cute and fluffy sometimes! Like a little puppy that knows he's in trouble, and tries to be good and nice and show he actually cares.. They still shit on the rug though. (Is it just me, or does that analogy sound so accurate it should be adopted - no pun intended)

2. I maintain my optimism, no matter the foolishness of it. I'm not entirely confident the Liberal Party will cease to hold many federal seats come next election, but we can only try.

 
At 10:50 pm, August 19, 2005, Blogger Mikey_Capital said...

"You'se guys heaps sucked with money, you always lost it all and stuff"

That made me laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

Me, I'm an ALPer. I joined the ALPers about a week after the last Federal election when I discovered that the naughty puppy had preferenced Family First ahead of the Greens pretty much in every state. I even nerded it up by going and checking the senate party preference listings on the AEC site, then did a cross analysis against the ALP. Who preference both the Greens and the Dems ahead of FF.

Why did I make the switch? Well for one I have always preferred labor over liberal. I joined the Dems cause in High School I told everyone I was a Dem and felt I should pony of the dough and make it official.

But the Dems, they did nothing ! Barlett, whose recent shining example of goodness was telling a skanky old lib she was a f*ckwit (which seemed on evidence to be accurate), he was only seen once pretty much diving off a bungee tower in an overly taut rich purple 'No HoWARd' T Shirt. You know the one Bolty always picks on.

Not that I didn't support most of the Dem and Green policies. But in the end I figured if that's my preference, with the other mildly lefties in the Senate as balance, well what the heck I should just join the ALP.

Politics in Oz may effectively boil down to the two big ones. But if I'm going to get rodgered from behind, Prison style, I want someone to give me a reach around. And that person is Prisoner #96743 the ALP.

Um, not such a good analogy huh?

That and I loved Keating. He rawked. He had vision. He was taking us some place. Then he went and forgot that occassionally he has to show a bit of humility, while Uncle Johnny showed humility. That and in the 96 debate Keating was way off the mark with the Price of Bread and Milk (asked by Mr Hair himself Ray Martin). I think he said ër, $3.40 Ray???. Howard was like he was on f*cking temptation, and banged the podium with the correct answer.

Bob Brown probably knows the price of bread (multi grain organic) and milk (soy). Kimbo probably drinks entire litres in one hit, so he should know too.

I lost my train of thought on this. Anyway Mr Watermelon, excellent analysis. May Australians wake up to themselves and start thinking about really what they can do to help the nation, instead of their clutching to their "my precious" engergy sucking succubus esq McMansion that they should never have bought.

 
At 11:32 pm, August 19, 2005, Blogger Larry Bonewend said...

I was born an ALP child, raised an ALP man, even became a paid up ALP man a couple years ago.

But then I looked at them, and I didn't like what I saw.

They will always be tempting because of their seat quantity, and that also means the Greens etc will be seen as fringe parties, and wasted votes.

This really is the problem, despite the crazy Greens, and the Herald Suns disturbing (and very undemocratic) attacks on them (which I believe they should lose their license to publish or whatever it is they lose when they make false attacks directly against a political opponent just before an election without a right of reply, perhaps jail time would help, with their readership quantity it is even more revolting), they still got some impressive numbers.

They got four friggin Senate seats with no real advertising budget to speak of, on top of everything else.

Now I like Kimmy. His speech at the IR Rally June 30 was tear-jerking, but at the same time, it was gut-wretchingly pathetic.

It was well written, obviously speech writers had gone a few sleepless nights on it, and you knew that the words just simply weren't his. As opposed to the lady from Konects Plastics or whatever it was called, on strike for months against enforced AWAs.

He had some grunt in him, he poured it out well, but they were simply the right words for the right time, except for when the rhetoric died down, and he made a piddling pledge to not really do much at all about the whole thing.

The Greens were reaffirmed in me just a little more then, and they continue over time.

They require grass roots, thick and dominant grass roots, it's all they have, and that means each and every person makes an enormous difference.

Two reasons why I joined the Greens, I knew others that were in them, else I doubt I'd even give them the time of day.

Second would be reading their policies, and thinking "that does need to be done, why isn't anyone ever concentrating on that? It's an important issue and its never on anyones agenda..."

..but that's just me.

 
At 10:11 am, August 20, 2005, Blogger Mikey_Capital said...

I was fiercely proud of Bob Brown when he got booted for razzing Bush (hee hee, double ententre). The Greens are a voice of true socialistic reason.

And I lurve the fact the nats got together, terrified as usual since for the most part they are irrelevant, and made up the watermelon analogy about them all being commies. Ah Commies. And which party has leeched itself to the bum hole of China. Why, that would be the liberal party. And which party continously brings up the many, many wonderful human rights violations of China - why the Greens.

If they ever get the numbers up I'd consider jumping ship. But I'm being pragmatic now and sticking with the ALPers. I just wish the ALP could sort itself out. They have a huge PR problem bought on by the idea they are machine/union driven. And I like Kimbo. He is truely an intelligent, articulate man. But he's got a lot of baggage that's weighing him down.

I think that's why Latham got that early spike. Because he seemed on the most part to be 'his own man' and not beholden to the faceless ones behind the throne.

But I digress. The Greens are the true party of the left at the moment and I wish them they very best of luck. At least under our preferential system chances are Greens will ping Labor ahead of Liberal, so there's no real worries of vote splitting.

I wish one nation were still around so they could split the coalition vote. That was kewl.

 

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